In 663 a church council was held at Whitby in the kingdom of Northumbria to determine which customs should prevail in the nascent church in what is now England: the Irish or the Roman? The spokesperson for the Roman side was a young priest called Wilfrid, who had been brought up in Irish monasticism, but then travelled to Rome and elsewhere to further his education. When challenged on their traditions (eg the date of Easter, and also the form of monastic tonsure), the Irish side, represented by bishop Colman, objected: "Are we to believe that our most revered Father Columba and his successors, acted contrary to the Holy Scriptures when they followed these customs?" Listen to how Wilfrid responds both graciously but also firmly: " Concerning your Father Columba and his followers, whose sanctity you say you imitate, and whose rule and precepts confirmed by signs from Heaven you say that you follow, I might answer, then when many, in the day of judgement, shall say to our